Eight years ago, a California Baptist pastor, Ken Klein, asked a question on an online forum with the subject: Who is Ethnic Israel? He then broke his inquiry down to some succinct elements:
For those who believe in a future 'mass conversion' of ethnic Israel, who constitutes 'ethnic Israel'?
Anyone who is a descendant of Jacob?
Anyone who practices Judaism?
Anyone who happens to be living in what is now called the nation of Israel?
A combination of these or others?
You would think he would have received consistent, substantive answers by now, but he hasn't. This preacher honestly and effectively cut to the heart of a twofold problem with mainstream Judeo-Christianity: the identification of the literal seed of Jacob/Israel and their eschatology. I imagine that he spent a great deal of time and thought putting this together, and I also am pretty confident he ended up disappointed in the lack of response.
Mainstream dispensationalists will not (and typically cannot) answer well-crafted questions like this. After eight years, he deserves an answer; don't you think?
Correctly identifying ethnic Israel today hopelessly breaks mainstream dispensational doctrine. Similarly, a Covenantal view of Israel's eschatology invalidates the recent, popular idea that today's Jews in the Israeli state have any prophetic significance at all. These are the very two doctrinal course corrections that changed my views so dramatically 12 years ago, and I'm always excited when I have a chance to share their importance with believers.
In this blog and podcast, we will investigate - and answer - each of the questions this pastor has offered in detail.
What Christians Believe About the Jews and the Last Days
Before I answer the questions, we need to agree why they are even being asked.
It's astonishing how many "ministries" are on the Web, radio and television featuring prophecy "experts" proclaiming that God has a "special plan" for the Jews which is separate from the "Gentiles." This belief is the heart of dispensationalism, which is the idea that God's relationship with all humankind is revealed within specific periods of time. Nearly all dispensationalists believe that "very soon" Jesus will return again to remove the Church from the planet sometime before or after a period of "tribulation" and the rise of an "Anti-Christ." It is after this period that the Jews are said to convert to Christianity in fulfillment of prophecy. In fact, the whole timeline is set up by God because His own people rejected Him 2000 years ago. According to Dispensationalists, "Plan A" failed. The Creator of the Universe couldn't pull it off. We now have "Plan B" with Christian Zionism and "Judeo-Christianity" as enablers.
Mainstream Christian television, the Internet and bookstores are full of "prophecy explained" material. Most dispensationalists position themselves as holding a "uniquely Jewish perspective" or, at least, the "expert" piously proclaims a deep love for Jews, with a profound burden for their conversion.
In the interest of time, I want to present just one perfect example of this gushy philo-Semitic phenomenon: a YouTube presentation entitled Billy Graham dies just before the Rapture! A very solemn "gentile" calling himself Steven Ben-DeNoon is sporting a yarmulke. In the background you'll notice a menorah. God apparently gave this man knowledge of the Two Witnesses on his Web site: Israel Returns: The Noon Institute of Biblical Research. He's positively immersed in the construction of an "end times" scenario built upon the ethnicity of the Jews.
These dominant, futurist ideas of biblical prophecy are generally new, and are built around the accommodation of a few million non-believing people who are presumably "returning to the land" in fulfillment of prophecy. The mere mention of the establishment of the modern Israeli nation in 1948 sends these "prophecy experts" into impulsive fits of ecstasy:
As God turns back to Israel and pours out His Wrath on their enemies, these two wars are likely to usher in the Tribulation, where God will test and refine Israel. As a result, Israel will come to a saving knowledge that Jesus is Messiah (Zechariah 12-14). The events of "Daniel's 70th Week" will begin in Israel, expand out globally, and return back to Israel in Armageddon, right before Jesus returns. Israel is clearly God's "timepiece" and the "epicenter" of prophecy... (Source)
The tone of the dispensational view is clear: the [ethnic] Jews today are a key part Bible prophecy because of their presumed genetic heritage going back to Abraham through Isaac and Jacob. That heritage is a lynchpin to their entire "Last Days" narrative.
Of course, if the modern Jews do not comprise Israel, and the modern Israeli state is not to be found in Bible prophecy, these concocted timelines and proposed outcomes have no meaning. Significantly, ethnic Jews would not "clearly" be at the epicenter of prophecy. It would mean that the convoluted, mainstream Judeo-Christian eschatology (the study of the "last days") is way off the mark, and no Left Behind series of books and movies, or rabbis sharing their views from the temple mount can change that.
DIspensationalism has become a generalized storyline concocted by the "experts" profitably promising to unravel their complex fairy tales in ways that the "non-expert" (ie: you and me) can understand.
Another category in the interpretation of Bible prophecy has emerged: Universalism. There are two kinds of universalists: those that believe the Jews matter, and those that don't.
Universalists that believe the Jews matter propose that today's unbelieving Jews and the non-Jewish believers comprise the church. I'm not making this up:
Israel [the Jewish Nation] is as much a part of the Church as the Church is a part of Israel, but the Church is not Israel and Israel is not the Church. (Source)
Sound complicated? Never fear, the prophecy "experts" have provided for us a Venn diagram, with the unbelieving Jews comprising a blue ball, and the "Gentile Nations" a yellow ball. Where the two intersect we find the Church (which is the "Israel of God + Gentile Church"). Simple! By the way, there are no "Gentile Nations" because the transliterated term "gentile" itself means "nations" - as any Greek lexicon will confirm. Another thing: the Apostle John wrote that anyone rejecting the Christ is a deceiving Anti-Christ (1 John 4:3, 2 John 1:7). So, what we have is this: a blue ball of "Deceiving Anti-Christs" and a yellow ball of "Nations Nations" - and where they intersect is the Church. Go figure.
Another group of Universalists attempt to "spiritualize" Israel entirely, which exempts them from having to identify ethnic Israel today. I covered this in a previous blog and podcast entitled A Different Gospel. I've met a few of these people, who reject a plain reading of the covenant which God made with Jacob in Genesis Chapter 32, and they run like the wind when confronted with passages like this:
And what one nation in the earth is like thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem to be his own people, to make thee a name of greatness and terribleness, by driving out nations from before thy people whom thou hast redeemed out of Egypt? For thy people Israel didst thou make thine own people for ever; and thou, LORD, becamest their God.
( 1 Chronicles 17:21 -22)
Among these Universalists we find full Preterists which have their eschatology right, but - with few exceptions - refuse to deal with the eternal promises made to literal, physical Israel today. Though their eschatology is exclusively based on God's dealing with Israel within covenants, the application of the outcome is also convoluted and ill-defined.
Here we also find the Church of Christ, and their unbiblical conclusion that "God was through with Israel at the Cross." The Church of Christ is known for demanding Book/Chapter/Verse for every argument, but have been drawing straws on this one for nearly 200 years. Their primary argument is that Ephesians 2:12-13 is referring to non-Israelites, and that non-Israelites were to be "brought near by the blood of Christ" by simply believing it to be so. Although the restorative grafting language used in Ezekiel Chapter 37 and Romans Chapter 9 specifically targets Israelites of the literal twelve tribes, many preachers feel obliged to extend the grafting to non-Israelites.
There also is the increasingly popular idea that Jesus Himself is Israel. Ignoring that this would mean Jesus would be King over Himself, that He died for Himself, that He is married to Himself, and He restored Himself to Himself, these so-called Christians have dug a very deep doctrinal hole:
The church is viewed as the Israel of that new age (Gal. 6:16), the twelve tribes (James 1:1), “a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession” (Ex. 19:6; 1 Pet. 2:9). (Jesus as the New Israel, Justin Taylor, The Gospel Coalition)
I wish I can spend more time on the idea, which logically leads to one conclusion: God died for Himself. Briefly, Galatians 6:6 is not another passage applying the promises given to the circumcism (Israel) to non-Israelites. In context, the uncircumcised are the Diaspora - not any believing person of any ethnicity. I refer you to my previous blog and podcast entitled The Jews in Prophecy Part 2. The reference to James 1:1 makes no sense at all, because this amazing verse confirms both the existence of the Diaspora - dispersed ethnic Israel - in the first century as well as the targeted people of the Apostolic work by James. Finally, Exodus 19:6 and 1 Peter 2:9 reference the literal, physical tribes of Israel - the sons (Hebrew ben) of Jacob and a "chosen generation" (Greek genos). Amazingly, the passages the author attempts to use to support his theory completely annihilates it.
It all boils down to this: there are several vastly different views by supposedly like-thinking people concerning a foundational element of Christian doctrine: ethnic Israel and the Last Days. Logically, all of them cannot be right, and - curiously - Christian Leadership doesn't seem to be holding them all under comparative scrutiny. Mainstream Christianity is all over the road regarding Bible prophecy, having been influenced by “cunningly devised fables” (2nd Peter 1:16). They have come up with their own interpretations of prophecy (2nd Peter 1:20) and nearly all seem to be acceptable to them.
But don't miss this: regardless of all these views, to question the pure, unadulterated genetic lineage of all contemporary Jews to one ancient patriarch is to cause many of these prophecy "experts" to become positively unglued.
Why Are These Questions Important?
It is important to establish ethnic Israel for the following reasons:
- It was these "peculiar" people, the Bride (Isaiah 54:4-6,Deuteronomy 14:2) which were to be chiefs and priests (Exodus 19:5-6). It was to Israel aloneto whomtheprophecies and promises were given (Psalms 147:19-20, Amos 3:1-2, Romans 9:1-5).
- The prosperity and perpetuity of these people, in their obedience to God, is guaranteed if they kept the Commandments, Statutes and Judgments (Deuteronomy 28, Isaiah 2:3) which He commanded their fathers (1 King 8:58).
- Ethnic Israel is to be separated from all other peoples (1 Kings 8:53) that all the peoples would be blessed (Micah 4) and all would know that Yahweh is God, and there is none else (1 Kings 8:60)
- It is within the generations of Israel that God would abide forever (1 Kings 8:13, Exodus 29:42-46, Isaiah 59:21) and not be forsaken (1 Kings 6:13)
- Historically, world view is built upon ethnicity. Just because you may believe that "we're all one race: the human race" doesn't mean that the Israelis, the Palestinians and the Arab nations do as well.
- A fantastic amount of wealth, power and access to resources lie in the hands of the "chosen people" - at the expense of the gullible goyim.
Whatever end-times view you may currently have, please set it aside for a moment and ponder the implications: what if we've got it all wrong? Do you really want people like Ariel Sharon (the butcher of Lebanon) and Ehud Olmert (currently facing prison for bribery) to be ruling and reigning for 1000 years from Jerusalem? The modern Israeli nation is characterized by terrorism, ethnic cleansing and deceit. The Jews have for centuries been a curse to the nations, setting up slave trade, usury banking systems, destabilizing governments and provoking war. Consider carefully to the sobering words of the prophet Isaiah:
For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee [Israel] shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted. (Isaiah 60:12)
According to the Word of God, history and current events this is a big deal.
And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments; And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honor; and that thou mayest be an holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken. (Deuteronomy 26:18,19)
...O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen ... thou art my servant: I have formed thee.... O Israel , thou shalt not be forgotten of me . (Isaiah 44:1-21)
... I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God (Exodus 29:45)
Whoever is ethnic Israel today, they are also the "peculiar" holy people above all others, and are bound to keep the commandments. And unless our God changes His Mind, they are not forgotten by Him, and He Dwells in them.
Now, let's move on to the first question by the California pastor:
Who constitutes 'ethnic Israel'? Anyone who is a descendant of Jacob?
Ask yourself this question: how can a person who has a pure, unbroken genetic lineage back to the Hebrew patriarch Jacob not be an ethnic Israelite?
Conversely, how can a person who does NOT have a pure, unbroken genetic lineage back to the Hebrew patriarch Jacob be an ethnic Israelite at all?
A person who is purely Nubian (black) cannot be white. In a like sense, a pure Caucasian person cannot be a racial Asian. This is, of course, common sense. It's observable. It's nature. It's science.
The answer is yes: any person who has a pure, unbroken genetic lineage back to the Hebrew patriarch Jacob is an ethnic Israelite.
Who constitutes 'ethnic Israel'? Anyone who practices Judaism?
We have heard for a long time from mainstream pulpits that Jesus practiced Judaism. He did not. We've been confidently told that the Jews today practice the Old Covenant Law that was given by Moses at Mt. Sinai. They do not.
Juadism is not ancient Hebrewism. It is a term coined in the 15th century, used to reference Talmudic rabbinism, which is traced to Babylon. The faith of the biblical patriarchs was not "Judaism" but the Hebrew faith. Christianity did not derive from Judaism, and Christianity does not "owe its existence" to Judaism (as so often well-meaning believers proudly proclaim). Sadly, Judaism has come to be viewed as not only being the roots of our faith, but our entire culture.
An unbreakable thread links Judaism, Christianity and America. Israel embodies American and western values. Abandon Israel and you abandon America and destroy the west. (Melanie Philips, author and blogger, source)
I believe that no honest Christian who knows their Bible, history and current events can dangle such an embarrassing and unsupportable claim with such confidence.
The holy book for most practicing Jews is not the Torah, but the Babylonian Talmud, which is a perverted, anti-Christ collection of rabbinic comments on oral tradition dating back to Babylon:
JUDAISM... Properly speaking Judaism ought to be regarded as beginning with the Babylonian exile. (The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible)
PHARISEES ... The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. (The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia)
Judaism is antagonistic to Christianity, and hyphenated, Judaized Christianity ("Judeo-Christianity") is not authentic Christianity.
This is a good place to address howling protests: do your due diligence and prove these things are not so. Don't be foolish by steadfastly holding to things which cannot be true. Where you stand on this matter is no trivial thing!
The answer is no: According to contemporary Jewish scholarship, any person who practices Judaism is practicing the same fundamental religion that the scribes and the Pharisees practiced. Regardless of their genetic heritage, the Pharisees set themselves on the seat of Moses (Matthew 23:2) and justified themselves before men (Luke 16:15,16). They taught the commandments of men (Matthew 15:9, Mark 7:7) which lead to destruction (Colossians 2:22). The Pharisees plotted to murder the Lamb of God, rejected Him, and were cursed by our Savior Himself (Matthew 23:34-36) as the prophet Isaiah prophesied (Isaiah 65:15). Do you believe the Word of God?
..If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (Luke 16:31)
By the way, I challenge you to take this up with a rabbi. Watch them fume. You see, they don't believe that any of these scriptures are valid and Inspired - even those "Messianic Jews" that claim the Divine Inspiration of Scripture. But you do. Make your choice!
Who constitutes 'ethnic Israel'? Anyone who happens to be living in what is now called the nation of Israel?
The modern Israeli state, established by U.N. decree, is not Israel, for a number of biblical and historical reasons. I have covered many of these in a previous blog and podcast entitled Jewish Fables. Here are some of those reasons:
- Jews living in the Israeli state today have evident racial ties to Ethiopia, India and East Asia as well as eastern Europe. These people of different races cannot singularly represent pure, unbroken Israelite descent.
- Most of the Jews in the Israeli state are agnostic or atheist. However, the Bible nowhere provides for the return of the unbelieving Jews to the land. In fact, their obedience to Yahweh is explicitly required as a condition (Deuteronomy 29:29).
- Yahweh promised that as long as His people were in Covenant with Him, he would protect them and the city on the feast days (Exodus 34:23-24). Yet, the modern Israeli nation was attacked on Yom Kippur in 1973. Another example: in 2002, a suicide bomber killed himself and 25 Israelis on Passover.
- The Israeli government does not view one's "Jewishness" as being traceable from the paternal seed of Jacob, as the Bible teaches. Rather, "Jewishness" is established through the maternal line and conversion.
- The inhabitants of the Israeli state do not call themselves "Israelites," but instead are called "Israelis."
- All the land promises made to Israel by Yahweh were fulfilled over 2500 years ago (Joshua 21:43).
Clearly, multiple races cannot all have verifiable, unbroken genetic ties to the land, or the unique people to whom the promises were originally given. Moreover, the modern Israeli state does not fit the bill biblically as being national Israel. It is viewed by a great number of nations as a terrorist, apartheid, non-democratic entity that does not represent "the model of democracy in the Middle East." It is a significant facilitator of White sex slave trade, by its own admission.
The need for a reassessment of the Israeli state by professing Christians cannot be understated. Sooner or later, you will be forced to get hold of the truth about Zionism and the Zionist state. Fortunately, some prominent, honest Christian leaders already are. Consider the conclusion reached by Steve Haas of World Vision:
[Steve Haas] said that many evangelicals, for more than 60 years, had “clung to a very narrow theological narrative that weds Christian theology with a political ideology known as Zionism…”and, many of our brother Christ followers have allowed themselves to be squeezed into the role of advocacy for Israel, and for war itself, by Christian Zionist errant scriptural teaching.” (Source)
It's hard to keep the lid on an insidious, diabolical conspiracy to create and sustain a Jewish "shining city" by openly exploiting the ignorance and indifference mainstream Christians.
The answer is no: the modern nation of Israel consists of largely of unbelieving people of multiple ethnicities - not an observant people from a single race, tracing their paternal line to Jacob/Israel. Frankly, they are imposters, as a significant number of their own scholarship admits. Here are a few examples:
...are not they [today's Jews] the inventors of the Chosen People Myth? (Dr. Oscar Ludwig Levy, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution)
These Ashkenazim Jews (the Jews of Eastern Europe), whose numbers were swelled by Jews who fled from Germany at the time of the Crusades and during the Black Death, have little or no trace of Semitic blood. (Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel?)
... Though many Jews are not of Semitic origin, we are the religious, spiritual, and national descendants of those who first formed the early foundations of Judaism who were Semites. (Rabbi Cyril A. Stanway, November 8, 1990, Sun News, Las Curces, New Mexico)
Demonstrably, there is no biblical or historical support for the idea of today's Jews being "God's Chosen People." Lack of time prohibits the mountain of evidence also available within etymology, heraldry, archaeology and anthropology.
Who constitutes 'ethnic Israel'? A combination of all these and others?
If only one of the questions can be answered in the affirmative, then there can be no combination of scenarios based on the questions that work. The answer is no: only ethnic Israel constitutes ethnic Israel.
Before we answer the big underlying question, "Who constitutes ethnic Israel?" let's briefly look at why the question is being asked.
Why Ask Who Constitutes Ethnic Israel?
It all comes together right here. When we're dealing with a horrific, fiery end of the universe, and a race of people who will rule and reign for a thousand years, identifying ethnic Israel is fundamental:
Anne Graham Lotz, Billy Graham’s daughter and the sister of Franklin Graham, is telling Christians “we’re coming close to the end of human history as we know it.” She believes that “the year the modern state of Israel was restored to the Jews’ ancestral land” (1948), that generation that saw that “event happen will also see the second coming of Christ.” (Gary Demar, Expecting the Near End of The World is a Christian Problem)
Grow in your faith as you learn more about the Bible and the Jewish roots of Christianity by using our Rabbi’s Resources... will capture your interest as they bring you on amazing journey of discovery deep into the heart of God's word. (Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein, Source)
Professing Christians today often claim that statements like this stir their soul, and are confirmed in the Bible.
But here is the correction: Jesus did not come to rule and reign with the Jews in a world full of peace and harmony. He came with a sword (Matthew 10:34-36) bringing division (Luke 12:51) againstthe corrupt Jews in Jerusalem nearly 2000 years ago, who had killed the prophets and set themselves on the seat of Moses and rejected the priesthood of the Lamb of God. Today, we're doing it again! We are giving the corrupt, Pharisaical Jews authority over our King, the Son of the Living God with their temple, their land and their dominion at any cost. If you need proof, please refer to my previous blog/podcasts entitled The Jews in Prophesy Part 1 and The Jews in Prophecy Part 2.
You either get it, or you don't. There isn't a shred of evidence that the Jews today comprise the Covenant people. The rise of the Zionist state, and its creation by the United Nations in 1948, happened outside biblical timing and biblical prophecy. Yes: modern, "last days" eschatology is a fantasy, and its house of cards is tumbling down. Teachers and preachers declaring themselves to be the "watchmen on the wall" in these "last days" are either ignorant of Scripture, shysters, or both. Contemporary Jews and the old City are key to their drivel.
The Bible nowhere tells us that the "Jews" are the Chosen people. In fact, did you know that the Bible specifically identifies the Jews as NOT being the recipients of the Kingdom?
"You will leave your name [the House of Judah - the "Jews"] for a curse to My chosen ones, And the Lord GOD will slay you. But My servants will be called by another name. (Isaiah 65:15)
Truly, this is not a new problem. Did you know that, by the first century, many of the Jews in Jerusalem were not ethnic Jews? (See Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9). For example, King Herod was not an Israelite, but an Edomite, according to several resources including The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia. See my blog and podcast entitled Who are the Jews? Going back several more centuries, consider Esther 8:17, where Babylonians became "Jews" for "fear of the Jews."
You see, the term "Jew" does not mean "Israelite." The term "gentile" does not mean "non-Jew" or "non-Israelite." Moreover, the corrupt House of Judah (the Judeans or "Jews") were not to continue as a nation:
Also, O Judah, there is a harvest appointed for you, When I restore the fortunes of My people. (Hosea 6:11)
For more information about these terms, and the prophetic promises given to ethic Israelites as well as the Jews, please refer to a previous blog and podcast entitled Israel Myths - 10 Years Later.
Who is Ethnic Israel Today?
So, who are the Covenant people today? Of course, the Jews see the problem:
The Ten Tribes are certainly still in existence. All that has to be done is to discover which people represents them. (The Jewish Chronicle, May 2, 1879)
If you believe the Bible:
- They must be here now (Genesis 17:1-7, Luke 1:33, Joel 2:27, Hosea 2:19-23, Jeremiah 31:35-37, Isaiah 54:5-10, Psalm 105:6-10, 1 Chronicles 17:22-24, 1 Samuel 12:22)
- They must be found in a people great in number (Genesis 13:16, Genesis 22:17, Genesis 26:24, Genesis 28:14)
- They must be found in many nations (Genesis 17:4-6, Genesis 35:10-11, Genesis 48:19)
- They must be great, and must rule over other nations (Deuteronomy 15:6, Deuteronomy 28:13, Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 17:15-16)
- They must follow the righteous statues and judgments of Yahweh (Deuteronomy 4:7-8, Deuteronomy Chapter 28)
Today's Jews don't come close to meeting the prophetic and covenant attributes of Israel. But we do find those attributes - all of them - within the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian and kindred peoples.
I believe the Bible. I also believe my eyes, and have an unfailing respect for immutable truth. There is only one people that have printed virtually all the Bibles in on the planet and distributed them. There is only one people that name their kids, cities, towns, streams and other geographical landmarks Hebrew names. There is only one people that circumcise their sons and baptize in covenant as only the Semitic peoples have for millennia. Historians like Pliny, Hannay, Rhys, Waddell and Dalin have documented their common names, settlements and culture all over the world. Famed archaeologists like Henry Rollins, E. Raymond Capt, Henry Sayce and Sir Henry Layard have documented incredible evidences found in the Behistun stones, the Obelisk of Shalmaneser, and the inscriptions on Assyrian monuments and tablets. Their work is readily available for your review. The tribes of these people, their heraldry, their flags, and their languages stand as evidence of who these people are, and proofs have filled volumes going back many centuries. You'll find that amidst all the hollering, the evidences are not seriously contested.
Remember: the vast majority of Israel were never called "Jews" or considered themselves "Jewish." Abraham was not a Jew. Isaac was not a Jew. Jacob himself was not a Jew. These ancestors of these great Hebrew patriarchs were scattered all over the globe long before the Jews came onto the scene! People, read your Bible. Study. Be able to defend what you believe, or - for the sake of all of us - believe nothing.
But, you see, proof is not the problem; a lack of desire for what is true is the problem.
Few will argue that Israel is a priesthood found within Adamic man. The problem is that we've been taught that the promises given to Israel apply to everybody, and that everybody traces their genetic heritage to Adam. We've been taught that to be a Jew means to be special in God's eye, and everybody else are "Gentiles" waiting for a soon-to-come "end of time" for the sake of the Jews. It's madness, and it is the reason why the questions being asked by the Baptist pastor have come to be asked.
I have found that the bulk of today's mainstream Christian leaders strive most to give their audience in the pews an impression that they know the answers to doctrinal questions. For instance, I asked my pastor 12 years ago a simple question: "Where in the Bible do we find that the Jews are God's Chosen People?" He couldn't answer. Neither could the elders of the congregation. Why? They know that if they are wrong about the Jews then they can be wrong even the basics of our faith. The reason why I have not yet received my answer is the very same reason why the Baptist pastor from California has not received his answers!
Mainstream Christianity teaches us that the Jews today are still waiting for their salvation, and that the Gospel is given to the Jew first, then to the Gentile (Romans 1:16). Here is an example statement of what is commonly believed:
The Gospel of Jesus Christ was first preached to the Jews and, according to prophecy, in the latter days it would be taken to the Gentiles. We are in the latter days now and the Gentiles have been receiving the Word. The Bible ... tells us that the Gospel will once again be delivered to the Jews in these end of times. That, too, has begun. (Source)
Consider this. If salvation is given to the Jew first, then to the Gentile (Greek) later, where is our salvation today? What about all the Gentiles between the first century and today who believed?
New Testament Scripture confirms that the Jews will have glory, honor and peace before the Gentiles (Romans 2:10). Will there be no glory, honor and peace for non-Jews until the Jews believe and accept their Messiah?
New Testament Scripture confirms that the Jews will have tribulation and anguish before the Gentiles (Romans 2:9). Will there be no tribulation and anguish within the non-Jewish peoples until the Jews experience tribulation and anguish?
How do these things work into today's dispensational eschatology, where contemporary Jews are the focal point in the events to come? Clearly, it can't. The definitions, timelines and language used by the Inspired writers simply don't work with what is being taught from behind the pulpit. There should never have been a need for the probing questions being asked by this Baptist pastor, who probably by now must be experiencing some serious discomfort concerning the role of today's Jews and the mainstream "Last Days" narrative.
Pastor Klein, if you're reading this, may our Lord grant to you wisdom and knowledge in your Christian walk.