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01/30/2013

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Brad

Israel and Judah - the Israelites in total - where (and are) the chosen and the firstborn! Consequently, the ones we believe them to be today are the ones upon which we put on the mantle of the inheritance.

Alison

Jeremiah 31:7 This is what the Lord says:

“Sing with joy for Jacob;
shout for the foremost of the nations.
Make your praises heard, and say,
‘Lord, save your people,
the remnant of Israel.’
8 See, I will bring them from the land of the north
and gather them from the ends of the earth.
Among them will be the blind and the lame,
expectant mothers and women in labor;
a great throng will return.
9 They will come with weeping;
they will pray as I bring them back.
I will lead them beside streams of water
on a level path where they will not stumble,
because I am Israel’s father,
and Ephraim is my firstborn son.
31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[d] them,[e]”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”
Clearly Israel and Judah are chosen, the firstborn.

Brad

Rebecca, I live in a world where something is not true just because it is commonly taught. The Holocaust (TM) is a made-up myth, supported only by grainy pictures and the word of cultural sociopaths. Six million Jews did not die at the hands of Nazi Germany. There were no mass killings in Nazi gas chambers. It's time to get a handle on this: there are a lot of people who refuse to be chumps.

Rebecca Kipperman

Holocaust never happened? What planet have you been living on...

Brad

Thank you, Russ, for your response.

The Jews in Jesus' time did not comprise all of Israel. Those Israelites who were called "Jews" then were predominately from the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. The vast majority of genetic Israelites had long since been scattered to among the nations, and never considered themselves "Jewish."

"Gentiles" (a transliterated term) simply means "nations" (as any lexicon will confirm). It does not mean "non-Jews." Please refer to my blog and podcast "Who Are the Gentiles?" or do a word search on this site for more information. Indeed - in the Gospel context - the "Gentiles" were those very disbursed Israelites, descended from the 10 other tribes which had split from Judah centuries before, and - in fulfillment of prophecy - the Shepherd came for His sheep not just in Judea, but wherever they were found.

It's important to note that another lynch pin of Judeo-Christian eschatology and soteriology is the idea that "Gentile" means "non-Jew" or "non-Israelite." There is certainly no biblical support for this conclusion.

Although I fundamentally agree with your conclusion about the Jews and their rejection of the Christ, Jesus' focus did indeed remain solely with His people, scattered in Rome, Galatia, Thessalonica, Ephesus, etc. His people exist today, but they are not all believing peoples of all ethnicities!

For His Kingdom,
-Brad

russ

I notice that Judea apologist "Christians" when questioned if today's Jew is accountable for their acceptance of Christ as the Messiah and whether they will be judged by this they craw-fish and say the Jews "have a waiver" and they don't have to accept Him until the next coming. I'm not sure how they come to this unless this is learned from Hagee and the "Judea/Christian" churches. Yet this excuse is wide spread in apologizing for the modern Jews refusal of Christ as the Messiah. I see this commonly. To counter this I offer the scripture, Mathew 15:22-28, The Faith of the Canaanite Woman …24But He answered and said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." ... Here He told us He came to minister to the Israelites exclusively, His Word to the Gentiles wasn't offered until His death. The Canaanite woman was a collateral conversion. BTW This is a great article very comprehensive.

Trevor

Titus 1:14-"Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." Psalm 119:142-"Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth." uh oh. Plz don't seek to kill me like the Pharisees did Jesus.

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