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Brad

D:

Thank you very much for taking the time to take a stab at the challenge.

Your arguments are the very ones I addressed in the "Are You Redeemed?" message, and are built upon the idea that the word "Gentile" means "non-Jew" or "non-Israelite." As any concordance will establish, the term "Gentile" simply means "nations." In fact, we find the use of the Hebrew "goyim" and Greek "ethnos" (which is translated as "Gentiles" in our Bibles) often used in reference to Israelites. I would encourage you to review "The Diaspora" and "Who Are the Jews?" Consider this very carefully: if an Israelite can be a Gentile, then your argument cannot work.

Galatians Chapter 3 is very often appealed to in an attempt to apply the Covenant promises to all peoples. However, Paul was not writing to all peoples, but to Israel alone. I covered this in "The Scythian and Salvation" and several other messages. The context of Galatians is this: the people to whom Paul was writing were Israelites; descendants of the old northern 10 tribes. They were mistaken in believing that their physical descendancy from Jacob/Israel was sufficient for their salvation. Paul corrected them - there was to be a remnant to be saved through one Person: Jesus. Salvation is only through the Christ!

Paul was an apostle to the "Gentiles" (nations). But he repeatedly indicated in his writings that his target was Israel; the dispursed ("diaspora") scattered among the nations. His repeated appeals to the prophets Hosea and Isaiah solidified the context. Therefore, the Gentiles being addressed by Paul were dispursed Israelites.

As was stated in this message, Paul wrote specifically that the promises and the covenants were given only to one people: the literal, physical descendants of Jacob/Israel (Romans 9:3-5). You did not address this problem.

If you re-read "Are You Redeemed?" again, you may note that only one people can be redeemed because only one people was purchased. You will also note that the Law allowed for the redemption on one only through a kinsmen redeemer. Jesus was not kin to all races! These (and many more arguments that I have presented) have yet to be addressed.

Again, thanks for your response!

For His Kingdom,
-Brad

D

Redemption comes from the redeemer - Jesus.
Yes, Jesus completed the old covenant by dieing on the cross, but he became the Seed of Live (new covenant) to all that were/are dead now.
Just because one might be a Jew today does not include him as one that has been redeemed.
Just as the gentiles were not included under the old covenant - the Jews are not automatically included under the new covenant.
They all must know the Truth (Jesus). They all must know the way (Jesus).
We all must have "that day": Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

That's when the Holy Spirit bares witness with our spirit that we are now children of God. (saved/redeemed/Love by God/One with God)

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

I don't know if this technically answers your challenge, All I know it works for me.

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